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diff --git a/meeting-logs/20240908-summary.txt b/meeting-logs/20240908-summary.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..43a2934 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20240908-summary.txt @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +Summary of Gentoo Council meeting 2024-09-08 + +Agenda [1] +========== + +1. Roll call +2. Foundation dissolution status update +3. Updated GLEP 83 "EAPI deprecation" [2] +4. Open bugs with Council participation +5. Open floor + + +Roll call +========= + +Present: AndrewAmmerlaan (proxy for robbat2), arthurzam, dilfridge, mgorny, sam, soap, ulm +Absent: - + + +Foundation dissolution status update +==================================== + +No major updates. AGM (Annual General Meeting) was held on 31 August, and +discussions about dissolving bank accounts continue. + + +Updated GLEP 83 "EAPI deprecation" +================================== + +ulm presented his GLEP 83 "EAPI deprecation" update, which allows for +deprecating an EAPI n-1 where EAPI n is the most recent. The motion for the +updated GLEP was approved unanimously. + + +Open bugs with council involvement +================================== + +Bug 938922 - GLEP 76 fix +------------------------ + +Marked as resolved, since noone objected. + + +Bug 938755 - GLEP 83 "EAPI deprecation" +--------------------------------------- + +Motion discussed and passed earlier. + + +Bug 925014 - PR services redundancy +----------------------------------- + +Credentials have been shared with multiple other people. + + +Bug 801499 - Nitrokey 3 upgrade +------------------------------- + +Soap will approach Yubico soon. + + +Bug 936914 - ARM64 server replacement +------------------------------------- + +We will be getting a donated Ampere Altra server, expected some time in September. + + +Open floor +========== + +arthurzam updated the council on a number of arches: + +- mips deptree nearly clean and will be made a stable profile asap. +- dilfridge started a cross-distro effort on the time64-on-32bit arches. Many + different opinions between distros on how to handle this. + + +------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +[1] https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-project&m=172581201404108&w=2 +[2] https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-dev&m=172519822825572 diff --git a/meeting-logs/20240908-summary.txt.asc b/meeting-logs/20240908-summary.txt.asc new file mode 100644 index 0000000..6e90613 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20240908-summary.txt.asc @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v2 + +iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEuNUxXaAAcsCoYIifzjbhFyAuOEIFAmbiIzlfFIAAAAAALgAo +aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEI4 +RDUzMTVEQTAwMDcyQzBBODYwODg5RkNFMzZFMTE3MjAyRTM4NDIACgkQzjbhFyAu +OEKawBAAnFKgn8RjnJW2V2lz9RIiZAQ6dzaDPr4vEK1S7CSuGys4DPv4+ucC++kh +tlTO9wd24ez5dLF41isd7KuMUMdv0gd3qRaOF3eSXJijCqYk/GWRsM8o5zcB5nXf +IsFRn8ap5uv1YsT93mTlCODNEmbGk+zmpzpxlcFaN9ifDf4BYASe5BmAcPWmyGw6 +zNgAMnlZur0VlWsH1oqz5yjBb8pKIVUQ2m9w1Oloy949txlEgH/2U4Rmmn4U9qVY +wm4EkjPrBECgmCi38ZLys+FPh1Gf1PxpFUUfViJMbqn1Ahe5WDTnzNt3dadPt4kJ +fZQg7XsyMGW27Zm0HetHMYegXiy870JKw9GFcUIZOt+v1l5IuLkN7t3w1v4KOpTU +Ki9p8fnmdxTWHJjJEyC4ZFOe44x0+0exXKTKPFHtPhgqOVI1xmkNv6TNs4zVV6CC +0vNlMCNQ0aVBxKgKPljuRitDnbEDC1PwmHsAgMbDagHOKfc+MpGRO2h0CXrNziG6 +koRFW2RTNCK6OJnNpZEXhW+ZgdOZoIpFYIkuW9GtcpqX7kHUWM1JxF9qzU89tYO2 +27os5xoVZ+XoXzg0q95Fl8tsoCUkxkR3uR+4sIqdysvxhaXYnwdYtJtzEr8YRl2n +z+AIdbVAzEXBW0li7886Rwi1chAUJLs3e9iIPYGuE3is4619TAw= +=NDjg +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- diff --git a/meeting-logs/20240908.txt b/meeting-logs/20240908.txt new file mode 100644 index 0000000..dd27636 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20240908.txt @@ -0,0 +1,159 @@ +[19:00:36] <@soap> ok, let's start this meeting +[19:00:51] <@soap> agenda for today: https://marc.info/?l=gentoo-project&m=172581201404108&w=2 +[19:01:02] <@soap> 1. Roll call +[19:01:05] -*- arthurzam here +[19:01:11] -*- soap here +[19:01:14] -*- mgorny here +[19:01:16] -*- sam_ here +[19:01:16] -*- dilfridge here +[19:01:22] <+AndrewAmmerlaan> I'm substituting for robbat2 who cannot be here today +[19:01:58] -*- ulm here +[19:02:06] <@soap> ok, everyone here +[19:02:13] <@soap> 2. Foundation dissolution status update +[19:02:23] <@dilfridge> afaik no news since last month +[19:02:36] <@soap> we had our AGM on 31 August +[19:02:59] <@dilfridge> we've been talking about who needs to be physically present for dissolving the bank accounts +[19:03:29] <@dilfridge> right, robbat2 posted some letters of president and treasurer, which are in the log there +[19:03:50] <@soap> ulm: anything else? +[19:05:12] <@ulm> no, that was it I think +[19:05:18] <@soap> ok good +[19:05:30] <@soap> 3. Updated GLEP 83 "EAPI deprecation" +[19:05:55] <@soap> ulm's suggested changes: https://public-inbox.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/u8qwb4hek@gentoo.org/ +[19:06:05] <@soap> ulm: want to give a quick overview? +[19:06:16] <@arthurzam> A funny case because we take our time with EAPI=9 +[19:06:45] <@ulm> the idea is not to delay deprecation forever +[19:06:53] <@soap> second that +[19:06:58] <@ulm> it's all in the rationale +[19:07:04] <@ulm> and the example +[19:07:39] <@dilfridge> https://gentoo.akhuettel.de/plots/eapi.php (and EAPI=6 is gone) +[19:07:52] <@soap> I'm fine with this, let's vote on it if noone has any objections? +[19:08:17] <@soap> motion: pass ulm's GLEP 83 "EAPI deprecation" update v2 +[19:08:23] -*- dilfridge yes +[19:08:24] -*- arthurzam yes +[19:08:27] -*- soap yes +[19:08:30] -*- sam_ yes +[19:08:33] -*- ulm yes +[19:08:36] <+AndrewAmmerlaan> on behalf of robbat2 I vote yes +[19:08:50] -*- mgorny yes +[19:09:03] <@ulm> thank you :) +[19:09:05] <-- rich0 (~quassel@gentoo/developer/rich0) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) +[19:09:08] <@soap> motion passed +[19:09:21] --> rich0 (~quassel@gentoo/developer/rich0) has joined #gentoo-council +[19:09:21] *** Mode #gentoo-council +v rich0 by ChanServ +[19:09:24] <@soap> 4. Open bugs with Council participation +[19:09:30] <-- mpagano (~quassel@gentoo/developer/mpagano) has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) +[19:10:04] <@soap> bug 938922 +[19:10:05] <willikins> soap: https://bugs.gentoo.org/938922 "GLEP 76: Fix date of copyright assignment document"; Documentation, GLEP Changes; CONF; ulm:glep +[19:10:35] <@soap> I dont think we need to vote on this? +[19:10:46] <@sam_> it's fine +[19:10:48] <@arthurzam> I think we all acknoledge the action here indeed +[19:10:51] <@ulm> nobody has raised objections +[19:10:58] <@soap> bug 938755 we just discussed +[19:10:58] <willikins> soap: https://bugs.gentoo.org/938755 "GLEP 83: Allow deprecation when only one newer EAPI exists"; Documentation, GLEP Changes; CONF; ulm:glep +[19:11:03] <@soap> bug 925014 +[19:11:04] <willikins> soap: https://bugs.gentoo.org/925014 "PR services lacking developer redundancy"; Community Relations, User Relations; CONF; ajak:pr +[19:11:20] <@arthurzam> stuff is moving :) +[19:11:24] <@soap> didnt we resolve that one last time? +[19:11:27] <@sam_> alicef has handed over the access now, right? +[19:11:52] <+AndrewAmmerlaan> btw, I also have admin level access to the Discord +[19:11:53] <@dilfridge> she handed it to maffblaster, who ... dunno, handed it to jstein? +[19:12:07] <@dilfridge> it confused me +[19:12:17] <@sam_> ENOTOURPROBLEM? +[19:12:22] <@dilfridge> yes +[19:12:29] <@dilfridge> EOPP +[19:12:39] <@ulm> ack, jstein has access +[19:12:44] <@soap> bug 801499 +[19:12:45] <willikins> soap: https://bugs.gentoo.org/801499 "Approach Nitrokey for Nitrokey 3 upgrade"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; sam:trustees +[19:13:13] <@soap> I havent found time yet to approach yubico, I'll do it soon, need to hash out a few details with robbat2 for that too +[19:13:21] <@dilfridge> that bug should go into an old washing machine on a field, together with a small bottle of nitro +[19:13:42] <@soap> dilfridge: did your nitrokey also break? ;) +[19:13:56] <@dilfridge> I have not really "used" it so far +[19:14:06] <@dilfridge> I have a yubikey 3 nfc +[19:14:17] <@soap> 3? from 2009 +[19:14:24] <@dilfridge> err, wait, not sure +[19:14:28] <@soap> anyhow, lets keep this moving +[19:14:29] <@dilfridge> not so important though +[19:14:34] <@soap> bug 936914 +[19:14:34] <willikins> soap: https://bugs.gentoo.org/936914 "arm64: Short-term replacement for jiji.arm.dev.gentoo.org"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; CONF; robbat2:trustees +[19:14:39] <@sam_> ah, so +[19:14:41] <@soap> sam_: any updates? +[19:14:44] <@sam_> yes +[19:14:51] <@dilfridge> OOOooooh +[19:14:55] <@sam_> my persistence with Works On Arm (WOA) paid off +[19:15:18] <@sam_> we are getting an Ampere Altra donated +[19:15:29] <@sam_> we have to host it, and we have to send status reports (which I am happy to do) for our use of it +[19:15:34] <@sam_> robbat2 has been handling the logistics +[19:15:36] <@dilfridge> \o\ \o/ /o/ +[19:15:40] <@sam_> we should get it mid to late September! +[19:15:52] <@soap> nice! +[19:16:05] <@sam_> once we have it, we should ask them if they want some news item on the front page or anything like that +[19:16:19] <@dilfridge> definitely +[19:16:29] <@sam_> so yes, all good +[19:16:35] <@sam_> I think we have the temporary machine running at hetzner atm too? +[19:16:36] <@arthurzam> Ampere Altra is the jiji sized machine? or better or worse? +[19:16:42] <@soap> yes +[19:16:42] <@dilfridge> same I think +[19:16:47] <@soap> they're beefy CPUs +[19:16:52] <@dilfridge> Neoverse N1 +[19:16:53] <@soap> also 8.2 IIRC? +[19:16:58] <@sam_> I think it's a bit better but I can't keep up with the ARM offerings tbh +[19:17:01] <@sam_> but roughly the same +[19:17:09] <@sam_> in terms of like order of +[19:17:22] <@arthurzam> sam_: yes, susuwatari is on hetzner, we already use it to fix arm{,64} and mips dep tree +[19:17:32] <@soap> 8.2 is what you want for proper virtualisation +[19:18:02] <@soap> ok, that's it for bugs (the remaining one is just the foundation one) +[19:18:20] <@soap> 5. Open floor +[19:18:30] <@arthurzam> Something small from me +[19:18:53] <@arthurzam> We are getting really close to full mips dep tree, so finger crossed, next council we upgrade it dev -> stable +[19:19:02] <@dilfridge> arthurzam++ +[19:19:15] <@soap> arthurzam: very good +[19:19:16] <@dilfridge> I just checked and the number of broken packages is down to 8 at the moment +[19:19:18] <@sam_> I do want us to see about getting some actual mips hw +[19:19:21] <@soap> arthurzam: what machines are you using for it? +[19:19:23] <@sam_> but we can do that later +[19:19:28] <@mgorny> ftr, i don't think we need separate council vote for that +[19:19:33] <@sam_> agreed +[19:19:35] <@mgorny> i.e. i'd go for marking stable as soon as it's clean +[19:19:36] <@sam_> we haven't in the past +[19:19:37] <@soap> agreed +[19:19:43] <@dilfridge> I woud say, let's switch it once its clean +[19:19:47] <@sam_> yes, do it +[19:19:53] <@soap> I'll take a few weeks off in october, we can look into bringing my mips online +[19:19:57] <@arthurzam> soap: qemu-user mips on arm64 devbox, and matoro's mips hw +[19:19:58] <@soap> unfortunately its an LE +[19:19:59] <@dilfridge> a few stable and most others dev +[19:20:00] <@sam_> honestly I forgot you had it +[19:20:03] <@ulm> we could vote about it now? +[19:20:30] <@dilfridge> ok motion, let's introduce stable mips profiles as soon as the deptree is clean +[19:20:37] -*- arthurzam yes +[19:20:38] <@sam_> sure +[19:20:39] -*- dilfridge yes +[19:20:39] -*- sam_ yes +[19:20:43] -*- ulm yes +[19:20:57] -*- soap yes +[19:21:41] <@dilfridge> then mips and alpha get frontpage news together :) +[19:21:47] -*- mgorny yes +[19:21:48] <+AndrewAmmerlaan> Idk what robbat2 thinks of this, so I'll abstain +[19:21:49] <@arthurzam> I guess good enough for the motion +[19:21:58] <@soap> 6y 1a +[19:22:58] <@arthurzam> I guess we are done with open floor? +[19:22:58] <@dilfridge> we should ask cipunited if they send us some machine :o) or loongson +[19:23:01] <@soap> ok, I'll wait another 2 min +[19:23:15] <@sam_> dilfridge: yes, definitely +[19:23:39] <@dilfridge> maybe after the big arm newsitem :D +[19:24:22] <@dilfridge> oh and +[19:24:27] <@dilfridge> also for open floor +[19:24:50] <@dilfridge> I've kicked off yet another cross-distro debate on the 32bit arch time64 migration +[19:25:27] <@dilfridge> so far debian makes angry wookie noises, a few people are confused or want to just move and take the breakage +[19:25:28] <@ulm> and it's like 5 people with 6 different opinions :/ +[19:25:48] <@dilfridge> and there is conspicuously no opinion from fedora, arch, opensuse +[19:26:02] <@soap> does fedora even still support i386? +[19:26:04] <@mgorny> does fedora even support 32bit? +[19:26:12] <@mgorny> arch32 is practically a separate distro +[19:26:14] <@soap> same for arch +[19:26:16] <@arthurzam> Maybe as "multilib" +[19:26:22] <@arthurzam> (for games and such) +[19:26:28] <@dilfridge> good question, carlos said yes, but maybe he wasnt up to date +[19:26:28] <@soap> arthurzam: I doubt that ABI will change +[19:27:09] <@soap> ok, closing the meeting now +[19:27:12] <@soap> thanks everyone diff --git a/meeting-logs/20240908.txt.asc b/meeting-logs/20240908.txt.asc new file mode 100644 index 0000000..87cde44 --- /dev/null +++ b/meeting-logs/20240908.txt.asc @@ -0,0 +1,19 @@ +-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- +Version: GnuPG v2 + +iQKTBAABCgB9FiEEuNUxXaAAcsCoYIifzjbhFyAuOEIFAmbiIz1fFIAAAAAALgAo +aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEI4 +RDUzMTVEQTAwMDcyQzBBODYwODg5RkNFMzZFMTE3MjAyRTM4NDIACgkQzjbhFyAu +OEJwzhAAt29qr0RQR3+7ov0e+t9u08aro/62h9HY7vOWNXbCALiyoCEmmamPddsO +crQrAHeVdbcNclIKafr4OdN8vHH2h5XvA+M4fPWC50Gss1xbQP74gmqO4EWsctYK ++YLCqATaFXzOh5/t0eO8eJHXBi+LO4w2R792PeN/E9ylVtWsxULUHPtgATscW1Ec +UfpCAxHe8Wb8DbubOSAn7oEBn2bwVV9CUbSNswjBuRW5lXsNdJDRt1B8H6az1ENm +GUhsqkQqr9idCS1sYCgNsEG37QplYxhHanAVMewrmLhoS91mcItvCPWFGWPZakrf +ZZdosvTBopI3wEO21Wf582iR+aiOOCDh8kid58Ne+Dp6wtMhppjspRSWP1/KxVhS +0kHjfw8yRxcDOmWEH9ZPvXwQNcJ3N/XpOY1Q3D9cUmPm4OZ0gdOnSGpfHaeXaRpG +wBmBo8YeWl+bAM03tWY05NafId0ljzQqSBOqtQbyZaZjBAC55Xc9PKwjZJ4HfT6B +xbVCB//jEUWaB8xSP0Y+jXm68RHy6AEDti7OrOEDyBAnx+NyrjWydL3rCq9uGe3W +xZhTkfM0ed5rN9h0vifm3VtmO8ovT2ZD2dsX5uFusEgCsrj/p3YSHLYaxMe8fSWi +KyL0Woig2HcpfvOrLMGoeA0kjQ2wieU6DuBh3wNdyCxHkJ+XzHw= +=LcOD +-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- |